US Raptor Best Oil Catch Can?

[BrrRaptor]

You’re missing the point regarding a Ford Ecoboost engine. Carbon buildup on the specific areas mentioned, will cause diminished performance. These are well known facts, with GDI and multi-port engines.

It’ a multi-port injected engine as previously explained. There is some fuel washing over intake valves but not enough to maintain clean valve stems. The majority of the fuel is direct injected to the cylinders. Thus, you’re going to have the majority of carbon buildup on piston crown, rings grooves and back of the TB.

Top tier fuel 91 or 93 octane isn’t going to clean GDI Injectors, piston crowns, back of throttle body and rings. Once carbon forms on these areas, you’ll start to have diminished performance and blow-by will increase as the rings aren’t able to seat completely into the piston grooves. Ford turbocharged eco boost engines as other GDI’s are notorious for this over time.

The 3.0 Is twin turbocharged and thus on boost, produces considerable blow-by.

Frankly, your tracking any car has no bearing on this discussion. I can’t speak to your comments regarding your 2.3 Ecoboost NA engine, as you haven’t provided any tangible or physical evidence in support of your comments.

I have mechanical experience and dealt with such issues, on numerous GDI and multi-port engines.

Carbon build up on GDI intake valves;

This is the ECOBOOST Induction service from BG; https://www.bgprod.com/reference/ford-3-0l-ecoboost-gdi-engines/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/watch-a-tech-tackle-ford-ecoboost-carbon-deposits-video/

There are many reference to Ecoboost Carbon Buildup. A simply internet search will provide them.

Got any pics of no carbon build up with CC installed?

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[JCSIX13]

No, I think your missing the point on what I’m saying…

If GDI engines had this supposed inherit design flaw as you claim.
Why do so many manufactures utilize them? (With no catch can)

I asked for your proof. You just stated “it’s well known”.

I shared my first hand experience. I’m sorry that isn’t good enough for you.

If you use the incorrect oil (royal purple, valvoline, Mobil 1, Castrol, etc.) then you totally will get carbon buildup faster than the OE engineers intended.

That’s my point. Poor maintenance causes carbon buildup. Not the concept of not having port injection!
Catch cans are a bandaid for poor maintenance!

No I think you are missing the point.


In port-injected engines, gas is continuously washing over the intake valves. This has the effect of cleaning off any build-up of carbon, oil, or other contaminants that build up during normal operation. In a direct-injected engine, the backsides of the intake valves stay dry, as no gas is washing over the valves. Oil and carbon deposits are still building on the backside of the valves, but there’s no fuel washing all that crap off.

That carbon build-up can destroy an engine. Intake valves get gummed up with build-up, and then nothing works correctly.

 

[AlpineBike]

No I think you are missing the point.


In port-injected engines, gas is continuously washing over the intake valves. This has the effect of cleaning off any build-up of carbon, oil, or other contaminants that build up during normal operation. In a direct-injected engine, the backsides of the intake valves stay dry, as no gas is washing over the valves. Oil and carbon deposits are still building on the backside of the valves, but there’s no fuel washing all that crap off.

That carbon build-up can destroy an engine. Intake valves get gummed up with build-up, and then nothing works correctly.

I’m not going to argue back and forth with you.
If you want to waste money on a catch can so that you can do less of the required maintenance and use cheaper oil to achieve the same result, knock yourself out…

 

[SubaruRaptor]

No, I think your missing the point on what I’m saying…

If GDI engines had this supposed inherit design flaw as you claim.
Why do so many manufactures utilize them? (With no catch can)

I asked for your proof. You just stated “it’s well known”.

I shared my first hand experience. I’m sorry that isn’t good enough for you.

If you use the incorrect oil (royal purple, valvoline, Mobil 1, Castrol, etc.) then you totally will get carbon buildup faster than the OE engineers intended.

That’s my point. Poor maintenance causes carbon buildup. Not the concept of not having port injection!
Catch cans are a bandaid for poor maintenance!

Not sure how the brands play into this argument. Each brand makes various good and bad products. There are tons and tons of first hand accounts of people running whatever in various engines and cars and they all say theirs is the best.

 

[HyperM3]

If you use the incorrect oil (royal purple, valvoline, Mobil 1, Castrol, etc.) then you totally will get carbon buildup faster than the OE engineers intended.

How are these incorrect oils? And if so, what do you consider correct oils?

 

[AlpineBike]

How are these incorrect oils? And if so, what do you consider correct oils?

Motorcraft full synthetic.

 

[HyperM3]

Motorcraft full synthetic.

But why are the others "incorrect"?

 

[AlpineBike]

But why are the others "incorrect"?

But why are the others "incorrect"?

They don’t have all of the additive packages that the Motorcraft oil has. Although some state they “will work” with GDI engines, they aren’t designed for it. And carbon buildup on the intake valves is one of the big reasons why.

 

[HyperM3]

They don’t have all of the additive packages that the Motorcraft oil has. Although some state they “will work” with GDI engines, they aren’t designed for it. And carbon buildup on the intake valves is one of the big reasons why.

Good thing I went with Amsoil then, one of the only "true" full synthetic oils out there.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

I'm hoping that Ford Performance will make one like I have on my Gen 2 Raptor - looks absolutely OEM.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6766-35T

They have a dual set CCV and PCV for the newer Bronco. I wonder if they’ll fit the Raptor? I know the K & N Filter from the Bronco fit the Raptor, I’ve been utilizing one. Maybe they’ll crossover.🫵

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

The RR has no Dual Injektion!

Yes it does. Just like every other Ecoboost engine.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

No, I think your missing the point on what I’m saying…

If GDI engines had this supposed inherit design flaw as you claim.
Why do so many manufactures utilize them? (With no catch can)

I asked for your proof. You just stated “it’s well known”.

I shared my first hand experience. I’m sorry that isn’t good enough for you.

If you use the incorrect oil (royal purple, valvoline, Mobil 1, Castrol, etc.) then you totally will get carbon buildup faster than the OE engineers intended.

That’s my point. Poor maintenance causes carbon buildup. Not the concept of not having port injection!
Catch cans are a bandaid for poor maintenance!

There’s proof all over the internet and go and ask your FORD technician about it as well, if you have a mind to do your diligence. You can personally claim anything, but without evidence, it’s noting but anecdotal and this is what your still providing..

GDI engines have always had carbon buildup issues. The engineers who design them know it and every mechanic who works on the do also.

You didnt ask for any proof, I volunteered it directly. Even after providing it, you’re still denying there is an issue. I’m not going to do your “due diligence” for you. If you decide to live under a rock, that’s your decision alone but the carbon issues with GDI and multiport engines aren’t going away because you do.

You can utilize this search as your start your education regarding Ecoboost carbon buildup; Carbon issues with ecoboost engines,

https://fordauthority.com/2022/08/f...ildup-issue-solved-via-walnut-blasting-video/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/watch-a-tech-tackle-ford-ecoboost-carbon-deposits-video/

https://www.truckinsiders.com/truck-blog/3-5l-ecoboost-problems/

https://tuningpro.co/the-3-most-common-ford-3-0-ecoboost-engine-problems/

Now it’s on you solely to read and learn about ecoboost carbon buildup issues. How it happens and what to do about it. HERE’S YOUR SIGN!

CC‘s are a known way of helping reduce and possibly eliminate blowby in GDI engines. They have been for nearly 2 decades and the inception of GDI engines. You yourself have said, “ Catch cans are a bandaid for poor maintenance!” So your not only being hypocritical in your comments but have no first hand information to draw from.

You have yet to inform anyone of the so-called maintenance you’re speaking of. Please enlighten us as to the specifics of your comment?

Hint; I’ve already provided the only methods of maintenance available for carbon buildup in successive posts.. Regular service, interval maintenance will not deal with ecoboost carbon maintenance, full stop.🫵

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

I’m not going to argue back and forth with you.
If you want to waste money on a catch can so that you can do less of the required maintenance and use cheaper oil to achieve the same result, knock yourself out…

Now your commenting here is an issues with “ecoboost carbon buildup,”directly after commenting there isn’t.🫵 Seriously!

You have no argument, or should I say nothing to support your insistence, only personal speculation for the sake of being misinformed and personal argument. This is why your argument is completely futile. All this comes down to your personal refusal/denial, to do your research/diligence.

“What maintenance are you speaking of directly? “ Instead of insisting on such anecdotal commentary, simply inform everyone reading, what specific maintenance you’re referring to. Then, provide factual (proof) evidence.🫵

You have no first hand information or personal evidence they don’t work, because you‘ve never utilized them yourself. However, you’re an expert on them, because you haven’t utilized them. Show your evidence (proof), to prove your insistent commentary. It’s that simple.

Then, I will further demonstrate to you, just how misinformed you are. This is exactly why unknowing owners are so confused and misinformed. Because some other owners lack knowledge or understanding regarding the subject.

No, Ford Raptor owners will not waste their money or time adding a CCV and PCV catch can kit .

Ford offers these catch cans thru their accessories services, for the 2.7, 3.0, 3.5 V6’s and 5.0 Coyote. They‘re FORD Motorcraft manufactured and it’s undeniable.

It’s only a matter of time before they will offer both (CCV and PCV CC’s) for the Ranger Raptor, just like the Bronco Raptor and Bronco. 3.0 Twin Turbo V6, (the same motor the Raptor utilizes.)

They don’t have all of the additive packages that the Motorcraft oil has. Although some state they “will work” with GDI engines, they aren’t designed for it. And carbon buildup on the intake valves is one of the big reasons why.

All synthetic blend and fully synthetic engine oils are designed for use in GDI’s and multiport engines.

Additionally, you’re now claiming there is an issues with “ecoboost carbon buildup” after just denying there’s an issue In your previous commentary.🫵

Yes they do, especially with the same manufacture specifications. Motorcraft oil is no better or no more specific an oil than many synthetic and synthetic blends available. Go into Ford and have an oil change done, and they’ll use synthetic blend oil, unless you specify fully synthetic. By the way Motorcraft oil It’s made by; ConocoPhillips, which is a supplier to several large brand name oils.

https://rxmechanic.com/motorcraft-oil/. Heres some additional minor reading for you.Proof you want, proof you’ve been given in spades. The rest is up to you!🫵

 

[HyperM3]

UPR released their Catch cans:

https://www.uprproducts.com/24-25-ford-ranger-raptor-3-0l-single-valve-oil-catch-can-plug-n-play/
https://www.uprproducts.com/24-25-f...l-dual-valve-oil-catch-can-w-css-plug-n-play/

 

[ag02m5]

UPR released their Catch cans:

https://www.uprproducts.com/24-25-ford-ranger-raptor-3-0l-single-valve-oil-catch-can-plug-n-play/
https://www.uprproducts.com/24-25-f...l-dual-valve-oil-catch-can-w-css-plug-n-play/

So grab one of these or think there will be better options? I plan to keep this thing for a long time.

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