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Having seen first hand what they prevent from getting into the intake tract, I wouldn't go without one.
I've run both UPR and currently J&L catch cans on my supercharged Mustang and the 2.7 in my Nautilus. The UPR separators both leaked due to undersized O-rings and subpar machining.
I spoke with J&L recently. They will release a plug & play system in the near future.
The quality of the J&L separator kits as well as the customer service is excellent.
I have the J&L on my Whipple'd 22 Mustang Mach 1, and it's amazing, that's the kit I'm really holding out for because of the high quality.
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I adapted a small 3.0 oz. UPR Plug and play for the f150 I had laying around and it works great. I want to make a better mount for it.
 

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are any companies coming out with a kit for this? I'm surprised mishimoto and others arent already on the scene
 

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They don’t add them from the factory because they legally can’t - some regulation, I’m not 100% certain. I have a 350R and they’re essentially now viewed as required hardware and everyone “in the know” has them. I know this is a much different engine, but I think in time, folks here will come around. Ford Performance makes the catch cans for the 350, tells you something!
 

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are any companies coming out with a kit for this? I'm surprised mishimoto and others arent already on the scene
Mishimoto and UPR are already in the works. Should be out within a couple months. I have spoken with both of them.
 

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I love it when people say they aren’t needed because the manufacturer didn’t include one. I firmly believe the reason they don’t add them is they require a lot more direct user maintenance, especially in cold weather environments. If you don’t check them at least once a week in winter the condensate can freeze and choke out your engine. They work as designed but a user has to take some responsibility and properly maintain them.
Well Ford didn’t include J braces but they are needed now for anything over 80 pounds on the rails. Sooo lol. Wouldn’t say they are always right. Especially when Ford isn’t the pinnacle of reliability.
 

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What leads you guys to think that the factory crank case ventilation system is inadequate?
GDI (Gasoline Direct Injected), Twin Turbocharged produces boo koo blow by at the rings. Thus is picked up by the PCV system and CCV systems, recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

As with any eco boost engine, (dual port injection), there isn’t enough fuel washing over the intake valves. Thus the GDI produces fuel blow by at the rings. Which ends up in the crankcase along with (water/condensation, oil, fuel vapor) which is then recycled to both sets of injectors via the PCV and CCV systems. The port injectors will wash over the intake valves and the other thru the GI’s in the cylinders with this vapor.

Water, Oil And Fuel Vapor, under pressure and higher heat cause carbon deposits to form on; piston crowns, back of TB, intake valves and GDI injectors. It will also produce an oil film in the Intake tube.

After 15K miles or so, there will be a buildup of carbon deposits on the above mentioned areas. This carbon left unchecked will cause sluggishness and loss of overall performance. This is where a CCV and PCV CC‘s are need to help remove the; water, fuel and oil vapor from the system or at least a vast majority, so it’s not recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

No, the OEM PCV system does not suffice in providing adequate protection against blow-by. It’s actually part of the issue as it’s recycled. It has been proven in numerous boosted, ecoboost engine applications; not to keep the afore mentioned systems clean and free of carbon deposits formed by water, fuel and oil vapor from the crankcase.

These carbon deposits need to be chemically cleaned at an interval of 15K-20K miles if CC’s are not installed. Keep in mind dual port injection helps but doesn’t solve the issue by itself. That’s the short and the long of it.

So, you’re either going to run a CC or have the engine induction service every 15-20K miles. The induction service is around $225-$250. One of the best induction services available is the BG Induction Service.

You can also utilizes a couple of valve/FI cleaners as well; Chevron Techron and ATS CHEMICALS 505 CRF at every oil change. This will help in keeping carbon deposits at bay.👍🇺🇸
 
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GDI (Gasoline Direct Injected), Twin Turbocharged produces boo koo blow by at the rings. Thus is picked up by the PCV system and CCV systems, recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

As with any eco boost engine, (dual port injection), there isn’t enough fuel washing over the intake valves. Thus the GDI produces fuel blow by at the rings. Which ends up in the crankcase along with (water/condensation, oil, fuel vapor) which is then recycled to both sets of injectors via the PCV and CCV systems. The port injectors will wash over the intake valves and the other thru the GI’s in the cylinders with this vapor.

Water, Oil And Fuel Vapor, under pressure and higher heat cause carbon deposits to form on; piston crowns, back of TB, intake valves and GDI injectors. It will also produce an oil film in the Intake tube.

After 15K miles or so, there will be a buildup of carbon deposits on the above mentioned areas. This carbon left unchecked will cause sluggishness and loss of overall performance. This is where a CCV and PCV CC‘s are need to help remove the; water, fuel and oil vapor from the system or at least a vast majority, so it’s not recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

No, the OEM PCV system does not suffice in providing adequate protection against blow-by. It’s actually part of the issue as it’s recycled. It has been proven in numerous boosted, ecoboost engine applications; not to keep the afore mentioned systems clean and free of carbon deposits formed by water, fuel and oil vapor from the crankcase.

These carbon deposits need to be chemically cleaned at an interval of 15K-20K miles if CC’s are not installed. Keep in mind dual port injection helps but doesn’t solve the issue by itself. That’s the short and the long of it.

So, you’re either going to run a CC or have the engine induction service every 15-20K miles. The induction service is around $225-$250. One of the best induction services available is the BG Induction Service.

You can also utilizes a couple of valve/FI cleaners as well; Chevron Techron and ATS CHEMICALS 505 CRF at every oil change. This will help in keeping carbon deposits at bay.👍🇺🇸

I'm curious where you are getting that info from. I've driven numerous GDI engines both on and off the race track over the years. My last daily driver was a 2020 Ranger Lariat (2.3 ecoboost). Ford Performance tune, always ran 93 octane, always changed the oil before 5k miles w/ motorcraft full synthetic. I put a bore scope down the intake to look at the valves before I traded it in w/ 70k miles and didn't find any carbon deposits on the intake valves. Never had a catch can...

Do I agree that carbon build up on intake valves is more likely to occur with a direct injected engine vs port injected? Yes.
Do I think that it's necessary if good fuel is used and proper maintenance is performed? Absolutely not.
 

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I'm curious where you are getting that info from. I've driven numerous GDI engines both on and off the race track over the years. My last daily driver was a 2020 Ranger Lariat (2.3 ecoboost). Ford Performance tune, always ran 93 octane, always changed the oil before 5k miles w/ motorcraft full synthetic. I put a bore scope down the intake to look at the valves before I traded it in w/ 70k miles and didn't find any carbon deposits on the intake valves. Never had a catch can...

Do I agree that carbon build up on intake valves is more likely to occur with a direct injected engine vs port injected? Yes.
Do I think that it's necessary if good fuel is used and proper maintenance is performed? Absolutely not.
You’re missing the point regarding a Ford Ecoboost engine. Carbon buildup on the specific areas mentioned, will cause diminished performance. These are well known facts, with GDI and multi-port engines.

It’ a multi-port injected engine as previously explained. There is some fuel washing over intake valves but not enough to maintain clean valve stems. The majority of the fuel is direct injected to the cylinders. Thus, you’re going to have the majority of carbon buildup on piston crown, rings grooves and back of the TB.

Top tier fuel 91/93 octane as you’ve eluded too in your above post, isn’t going to clean GDI Injectors, piston crowns, back of throttle body and rings. Once carbon forms on these areas, you’ll start to have diminished performance and blow-by will increase as the rings aren’t able to seat completely into the piston grooves. Ford turbocharged eco boost engines as other GDI’s are notorious for this over time.

The 3.0 Is twin turbocharged and thus on boost, produces considerable blow-by.

Frankly, your tracking any car has no bearing on this discussion. I can’t speak to your comments regarding your 2.3 Ecoboost NA or TC engine, as you haven’t provided any tangible or physical evidence in support of your comments.

I have mechanical experience and dealt with such issues, on numerous GDI and multi-port engines. Once carbon buildup begins at the valve stems and around the valve seat, it only gets worse with time. When the valves don’t seat properly the real trouble begins.

Carbon build up on GDI intake valves;

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There is no other maintenance to be performed for carbon buildup, except inductions service cleaning or manual walnut blasting. The latter is expensive and requires a partial engine tear down if done correctly.

CC’s on both CCV and PCV sides, virtually eliminate the (condensation, fuel and oil vapor from the crankcase) which cause the carbon buildup in the anffected areas of a multiport system like the Ecoboost.

Here’s something else to consider; Ford Accessories offers their own version of the CCV and PCV catch cans for several Ecoboost engines including the; 2.7 TC V6, 3.0 TC V6, and 5.0 Coyote V-8. I believe they also know a little something about Ecoboost carbon buildup as well, considering their selling accessory catch cans for these specific engines.🫵

This is the ECOBOOST Induction service from BG; https://www.bgprod.com/reference/ford-3-0l-ecoboost-gdi-engines/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/watch-a-tech-tackle-ford-ecoboost-carbon-deposits-video/

There are many reference to Ecoboost Carbon Buildup. A simply internet search will provide them.👍🇺🇸
 
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GDI (Gasoline Direct Injected), Twin Turbocharged produces boo koo blow by at the rings. Thus is picked up by the PCV system and CCV systems, recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

As with any eco boost engine, (dual port injection), there isn’t enough fuel washing over the intake valves. Thus the GDI produces fuel blow by at the rings. Which ends up in the crankcase along with (water/condensation, oil, fuel vapor) which is then recycled to both sets of injectors via the PCV and CCV systems. The port injectors will wash over the intake valves and the other thru the GI’s in the cylinders with this vapor.

Water, Oil And Fuel Vapor, under pressure and higher heat cause carbon deposits to form on; piston crowns, back of TB, intake valves and GDI injectors. It will also produce an oil film in the Intake tube.

After 15K miles or so, there will be a buildup of carbon deposits on the above mentioned areas. This carbon left unchecked will cause sluggishness and loss of overall performance. This is where a CCV and PCV CC‘s are need to help remove the; water, fuel and oil vapor from the system or at least a vast majority, so it’s not recycled and re-burnt in the cylinders.

No, the OEM PCV system does not suffice in providing adequate protection against blow-by. It’s actually part of the issue as it’s recycled. It has been proven in numerous boosted, ecoboost engine applications; not to keep the afore mentioned systems clean and free of carbon deposits formed by water, fuel and oil vapor from the crankcase.

These carbon deposits need to be chemically cleaned at an interval of 15K-20K miles if CC’s are not installed. Keep in mind dual port injection helps but doesn’t solve the issue by itself. That’s the short and the long of it.

So, you’re either going to run a CC or have the engine induction service every 15-20K miles. The induction service is around $225-$250. One of the best induction services available is the BG Induction Service.

You can also utilizes a couple of valve/FI cleaners as well; Chevron Techron and ATS CHEMICALS 505 CRF at every oil change. This will help in keeping carbon deposits at bay.👍🇺🇸
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You’re missing the point regarding a Ford Ecoboost engine. Carbon buildup on the specific areas mentioned, will cause diminished performance. These are well known facts, with GDI and multi-port engines.

It’ a multi-port injected engine as previously explained. There is some fuel washing over intake valves but not enough to maintain clean valve stems. The majority of the fuel is direct injected to the cylinders. Thus, you’re going to have the majority of carbon buildup on piston crown, rings grooves and back of the TB.

Top tier fuel 91 or 93 octane isn’t going to clean GDI Injectors, piston crowns, back of throttle body and rings. Once carbon forms on these areas, you’ll start to have diminished performance and blow-by will increase as the rings aren’t able to seat completely into the piston grooves. Ford turbocharged eco boost engines as other GDI’s are notorious for this over time.

The 3.0 Is twin turbocharged and thus on boost, produces considerable blow-by.

Frankly, your tracking any car has no bearing on this discussion. I can’t speak to your comments regarding your 2.3 Ecoboost NA engine, as you haven’t provided any tangible or physical evidence in support of your comments.

I have mechanical experience and dealt with such issues, on numerous GDI and multi-port engines.

Carbon build up on GDI intake valves;

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This is the ECOBOOST Induction service from BG; https://www.bgprod.com/reference/ford-3-0l-ecoboost-gdi-engines/

https://fordauthority.com/2021/07/watch-a-tech-tackle-ford-ecoboost-carbon-deposits-video/

There are many reference to Ecoboost Carbon Buildup. A simply internet search will provide them.👍🇺🇸

No, I think your missing the point on what I’m saying…

If GDI engines had this supposed inherit design flaw as you claim.
Why do so many manufactures utilize them? (With no catch can)

I asked for your proof. You just stated “it’s well known”.

I shared my first hand experience. I’m sorry that isn’t good enough for you.

If you use the incorrect oil (royal purple, valvoline, Mobil 1, Castrol, etc.) then you totally will get carbon buildup faster than the OE engineers intended.

That’s my point. Poor maintenance causes carbon buildup. Not the concept of not having port injection!
Catch cans are a bandaid for poor maintenance!
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