Ford tune with other mods questions

[Antman450]

That's what I was thinking too. I can't imagine the ECU would let the engine lean out too much with downpipes.

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[T-Rev]

I've seen enough O2 sensors malfunction to say good luck with that. Not to mention detonation...but sure, you can even run 87 octane with the FP Tune and the truck will pull a bunch of timing and boost to try and save itself.

 

[T-Rev]

I'm not for certain the FP Tune works like this but most ECU's do...near or at WOT they go into open loop and the O2 sensor is not used. Instead, it relies on pre-programmed values. Those values run out of real estate and bad things happen.

 

[AlpineBike]

Dude, you need to seriously check your shit before replying. YES YOU NEED A NEW ECU.

Moreover, your answers are mostly bullshit on every single post I have ever seen from you. I don't understand why you are trying to be argumentative on a forum that is here for people to collaborate on. It seems counterproductive. No wonder everybody is blocking you, as I am setting you to ignore as well.

Please provide one shred of evidence that ZFG requires you to replace your ECU in order to modify the engine calibration…
I’ll wait…

 

[Mad_Motorhead]

I've seen enough O2 sensors malfunction to say good luck with that. Not to mention detonation...but sure, you can even run 87 octane with the FP Tune and the truck will pull a bunch of timing and boost to try and save itself.

It clearly says 91 octane or better. I don't get where your going with this reply

 

[T-Rev]

It clearly says 91 octane or better. I don't get where your going with this reply

Your point was the ECU would compensate with the O2 which probably isn't even the case at WOT. The ECU will also adjust for octane, doesn't mean it's a good idea and the downpipe may put the tune outside its intended parameters.

Not sure you should be ragging on and blocking AlpineBike, I can tell you're not long-lost siblings but you just might be 3rd cousins lol

 

[hand-filer]

Please provide one shred of evidence that ZFG requires you to replace your ECU in order to modify the engine calibration…
I’ll wait…

Cut and paste from their website:
ZFG RACING CUSTOM TUNE PART NUMBER: ZFG-21-RANGER-3.0-CT001

The Stage 0 Package contains everything you need to tune your 2021-2023 F150 3.5L Raptor.
Includes: One Tune (adjusts the engine and transmission)Covers one tuning goal and one fuel type Additional tunes can be purchased to cover additional fuel types or tuning goals Credits (4) - required for 'licensing 'HP Tuners Device (MPVI3 option +$170)Upgraded ECU (Brand New option +$747) The Upgraded ECU will replace your factory ECU The Upgraded ECU requires programming before it is functional in your vehicle (see next item)

Not bothering to fact check seems to be your modus operandi.

 

[AlpineBike]

Cut and paste from their website:
ZFG RACING CUSTOM TUNE PART NUMBER: ZFG-21-RANGER-3.0-CT001

The Stage 0 Package contains everything you need to tune your 2021-2023 F150 3.5L Raptor.
Includes: One Tune (adjusts the engine and transmission)Covers one tuning goal and one fuel type Additional tunes can be purchased to cover additional fuel types or tuning goals Credits (4) - required for 'licensing 'HP Tuners Device (MPVI3 option +$170)Upgraded ECU (Brand New option +$747) The Upgraded ECU will replace your factory ECU The Upgraded ECU requires programming before it is functional in your vehicle (see next item)

Not bothering to fact check seems to be your modus operandi.

From your “copy and paste”:
The Stage 0 Package contains everything you need to tune your 2021-2023 F150 3.5L Raptor.

Even for their “race tune” they give an option of an “upgraded ECU” but it is not required.
They only thing they haven’t cracked on the OEM ECU is the active exhaust functionality.

It still sounds like you don’t know why you even want to change out parts on your truck. Grouping parts like intercoolers with downpipes just shows the world that you upgrade cars based on “stages” listed in “need for speed” video games. You have no understanding of how to identify what in the OE setup is actually limiting power output or what the purpose of each “upgrade part” actually is!

 

[Mad_Motorhead]

Your point was the ECU would compensate with the O2 which probably isn't even the case at WOT. The ECU will also adjust for octane, doesn't mean it's a good idea and the downpipe may put the tune outside its intended parameters.

Not sure you should be ragging on and blocking AlpineBike, I can tell you're not long-lost siblings but you just might be 3rd cousins lol

WTH? Who blocked him? And I never ragged on anyone.

 

[Mad_Motorhead]

Cut and paste from their website:
ZFG RACING CUSTOM TUNE PART NUMBER: ZFG-21-RANGER-3.0-CT001

The Stage 0 Package contains everything you need to tune your 2021-2023 F150 3.5L Raptor.
Includes: One Tune (adjusts the engine and transmission)Covers one tuning goal and one fuel type Additional tunes can be purchased to cover additional fuel types or tuning goals Credits (4) - required for 'licensing 'HP Tuners Device (MPVI3 option +$170)Upgraded ECU (Brand New option +$747) The Upgraded ECU will replace your factory ECU The Upgraded ECU requires programming before it is functional in your vehicle (see next item)

Not bothering to fact check seems to be your modus operandi.

From your “copy and paste”:
The Stage 0 Package contains everything you need to tune your 2021-2023 F150 3.5L Raptor.

Even for their “race tune” they give an option of an “upgraded ECU” but it is not required.
They only thing they haven’t cracked on the OEM ECU is the active exhaust functionality.

It still sounds like you don’t know why you even want to change out parts on your truck. Grouping parts like intercoolers with downpipes just shows the world that you upgrade cars based on “stages” listed in “need for speed” video games. You have no understanding of how to identify what in the OE setup is actually limiting power output or what the purpose of each “upgrade part” actually is!

Yeah most people want to keep stock vehicle functionality along with the added power of a custom tune. I have had long discussions with Adam Zfgr about this. This isn't my first time modifying any. I have had a 800whp, supercharged 2018 Mustang that I installed everything myself.

 

[T-Rev]

WTH? Who blocked him? And I never ragged on anyone.

My sincere apologies, my mistake...it was the OP, Antman.

On a side note, I'm not the only one who has recommended against the FP Tune with downpipes. Even the guy who is selling them recommended a custom tune.

 

[Antman450]

My sincere apologies, my mistake...it was the OP, Antman.

On a side note, I'm not the only one who has recommended against the FP Tune with downpipes. Even the guy who is selling them recommended a custom tune.

I think I may just hold on them. I don't really want to pay $2500 for the whole thing with a new ECU. Not to mention the voiding of the warranty. I will wait until my warranty is up, and hopefully the unlocking will be figured out by then.

 

[T-Rev]

I think I may just hold on them. I don't really want to pay $2500 for the whole thing with a new ECU. Not to mention the voiding of the warranty. I will wait until my warranty is up, and hopefully the unlocking will be figured out by then.

Apologies to you as well if my replies were received negatively. I don't want anyone to destroy their engine. I'm hoping someone takes the plunge but does so conservatively with comprehensive logging across environmental conditions. What might be safe at 80f at sea level, may not be safe at 4000 ft and -10 below.

As analogy, if i was taking a stroll through Compton, I would be very diligent of my surroundings (data log) and not rely on the LA Police (ECU) to save me.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

I bought the AFE Momentum with dry filter, from juggernautpower.com use chad15 and save. I am still waiting on mine. They are supposed to ship in early February

Same here……

 

[Antman450]

Apologies to you as well if my replies were received negatively. I don't want anyone to destroy their engine. I'm hoping someone takes the plunge but does so conservatively with comprehensive logging across environmental conditions. What might be safe at 80f at sea level, may not be safe at 4000 ft and -10 below.

As analogy, if i was taking a stroll through Compton, I would be very diligent of my surroundings (data log) and not rely on the LA Police (ECU) to save me.

Not received negatively at all, it's all good.

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