Driver Seat Leather issues: Ranger Raptor

[K9handler;7]

Mine was built in May. Currently has 3700 miles on it. I don't have the wrinkly seat problem.

Maybe it’s the light but it looks pretty wrinkly

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[RANGER/HOBB]

Mine was built in May. Currently has 3700 miles on it. I don't have the wrinkly seat problem.

Just like everyone else.

 

[PhoenixRanger]

I would agree about the leather seat quality in a Raptor. I was at a Nissan dealership recently and they had a rogue platinum edition that had seats that look like they were out of a high-end 100k vehicle. If Nissan can make them look that good on something like a rogue, why can’t Ford do it on their highest end Ranger?

 

[NPTR]

I get it - Ford dumped all the R&D / spend into the driveline, powertrain, suspension…and other things for sacrificed. Something has to give, impossible to make the perfect truck at the perfect price…but it would be nice to offer a few upgrade options in areas like seats where folks can go base or tick it up a notch I instead of a one size fits all option. All that said, I chose the Raptor over the TRD or Nissan / others because where Ford spent the time / money is in the areas most important to me.

 

[Dracena]

Just checked my seats at 3 months old. No issues here either, except the normal rear bolster wrinkles that happen with every leather seat. I would be bummed out with the pics I'm seeing being posted.

 

[three west]

Unfortunately not limited to the drivers' seat. Mine looks better than some, but definitely not perfect.

However, the passenger seat, which has literally had a passenger for 10 miles total

and the rear seat, which has never had a person in it

 

[FXFord]

The problem is not the leather itself but the assembly of the pieces. Leather does stretch with use and if it were vinyl it could be tightened and dewrinkled with a heat gun. Same for when you leave something on the seat and it leaves an imprint. I've owned 5 brand new Ford trucks, all with leather, and the light color leathers are the hardest to keep new looking, if not impossible. I will never buy light colored leather seats again. They look great brand new though!

 

[sikedsyko]

My truck is 7 months old now with 12,000 miles on it and the seats already look worse than the leather did in my 6 year old BMW with 90,000 miles that I traded for the Ranger.

I'm already expecting to need to have them recovered by the time the truck is 5 years old.

 

[MulchBags2]

Mine has similar issue. Any resolution? https://www.ranger6g.com/forum/thre...ild-defect-or-normal.13727/page-2#post-211100

 

[Johnny 5]

This is my wife's @ 5,000 miles and mine @ 1,000 miles. My wives aren't as bad as mine, but this is still totally unacceptable for a premium priced vehicle. What a blatant slap in the face to know this is continuing, and they're still letting these vehicles be made. I love my ranger raptor but this will definitely take the wind out of my sails about this Premium Truck from FoMoCo.

 

[jmt8706]

May be worth going the Katzkin route after warranties expire.

 

[Johnny 5]

May be worth going the Katzkin route after warranties expire.

We are already thinking Katskin this spring. Well see how our one time replacement looks first.

 

[pelermon]

We are already thinking Katskin this spring. Well see how our one time replacement looks first.

Everything will fail. The problem is that there is no support under the foam seat cushion, #4 basket is insufficient support for the back half. The back half of the seat just freefall sinks with weight. Put a 3-4" plate in the middle of the frame to support the foam.

 

[Johnny 5]

Everything will fail. The problem is that there is no support under the foam seat cushion, #4 basket is insufficient support for the back half. The back half of the seat just freefall sinks with weight. Put a 3-4" plate in the middle of the frame to support the foam.

Yeah that makes sense. I used to work for a auto seat manufacturer. I just talked to the head engineer there, showed him your diagram, and he told me obviously that oems are doing everything they can to cut costs, and they are going from sinusoidal type spring to a "flex mat". He doesn't make this particular seat, but he said he's going to speak to the engineers at Ford and get back with me regarding any pertinent information if there even is any. He also stated something that we all need to know. Leather is supposed to wrinkle like old man's face, vinyl isn't supposed to wrinkle. We used to make fun of vinyl back in the day, it's called pleather, fake leather, so what would you prefer? Thanks for sharing the blueprint !

 

[ducktapeonmydesk]

Yeah that makes sense. I used to work for a auto seat manufacturer. I just talked to the head engineer there, showed him your diagram, and he told me obviously that oems are doing everything they can to cut costs, and they are going from sinusoidal type spring to a "flex mat". He doesn't make this particular seat, but he said he's going to speak to the engineers at Ford and get back with me regarding any pertinent information if there even is any. He also stated something that we all need to know. Leather is supposed to wrinkle like old man's face, vinyl isn't supposed to wrinkle. We used to make fun of vinyl back in the day, it's called pleather, fake leather, so what would you prefer? Thanks for sharing the blueprint !

LM Manufacturing is who makes the seats, per the sticker on the plastic that was on my seats.

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