6G Ranger refresh in 2026?

[Wayfaring Ranger]

Or just maybe the lack of sales is due to not enough trims and/or lack of cab/bed configurations?

Something tells me Ford has way more insight and metrics into the demand for these products than you do

If what you're asking for was a market worthwhile for Ford to enter, they would have launched with these configs or signaled they were coming. Their metrics from decades of selling trucks tell them that very few people want what you want. In an earlier comment you called Ford "greedy" because of their current prices -- if Ford was "greedy" wouldn't it make sense for them to sell what people wanted if it increased their shareholder profit?

The fact is what you want isn't a money maker for the company. It sucks, sure. I would have probably gotten a 6ft bed, but i don't expect Ford to take a loss just because I'm a niche customer. There are plenty of truckbed accessories that can double or triple the amount of usable storage you have in a 5ft bed if it's that important.

The fact that GM came to the same conclusion for the Colorado/Canyon just reinforces that most people aren't choosing a longbed midsize at this point in time.

Enough 2.7's for them to run out

I haven't seen anything about 2.7s being sold out.

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[fordtrks4ever]

Wayfaring Ranger
I think we can stop now.
We both have our own views and both may be wright or wrong but they are ours.
Neither of us will change any one else's view and you have a great day

 

[fordtrks4ever]

It was listed on the last schedule sheet posted on this forum

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[gdub]

Take myself as an example... Owned nothing but Ford Trucks the last 30+ years. A ‘94 Ranger XLT SuperCrew and ‘02 F-150 Lariat SuperCrew (both purchased new).

Where did you find a 94 Ranger XLT SuperCrew?

 

[Fattirz in NC]

Where did you find a 94 Ranger XLT SuperCrew?

My bad… “SuperCab” not SuperCrew.

 

[Fattirz in NC]

Something tells me Ford has way more insight and metrics into the demand for these products than you do

If what you're asking for was a market worthwhile for Ford to enter, they would have launched with these configs or signaled they were coming. Their metrics from decades of selling trucks tell them that very few people want what you want. In an earlier comment you called Ford "greedy" because of their current prices -- if Ford was "greedy" wouldn't it make sense for them to sell what people wanted if it increased their shareholder profit?

The fact is what you want isn't a money maker for the company. It sucks, sure. I would have probably gotten a 6ft bed, but i don't expect Ford to take a loss just because I'm a niche customer. There are plenty of truckbed accessories that can double or triple the amount of usable storage you have in a 5ft bed if it's that important.

The fact that GM came to the same conclusion for the Colorado/Canyon just reinforces that most people aren't choosing a longbed midsize at this point in time.

Just voicing my opinion, sorry you have a problem with it. As far as your snarky comment about “Fords insight and Metrics”? Well my opinion just so happens to align with what Toyota (the number one midsize truck producer in NA) just did for the launch of their brand new midsize truck… 8 trim levels (including two halo models), 3 bed/cab configurations, 3 engine options (including a hybrid) and manual trans option. I bet they have some solid “insight and metrics” too.

I never mentioned Ford was “greedy”. I said all manufactures have been gouging consumers in recent years (referencing the shit-show coming out of Covid) only building higher trim models when supply was low giving people almost no affordable options.

Lastly, longbeds aren’t for niche customers. I just got back from vacation in Montana and Wyoming and there are probably more 6’ bed mid-size trucks on the road there than 5’ beds. Hardly a niche feature.

 

[Wayfaring Ranger]

Just voicing my opinion, sorry you have a problem with it. As far as your snarky comment about “Fords insight and Metrics”? Well my opinion just so happens to align with what Toyota (the number one midsize truck producer in NA) just did for the launch of their brand new midsize truck… 8 trim levels (including two halo models), 3 bed/cab configurations, 3 engine options (including a hybrid) and manual trans option. I bet they have some solid “insight and metrics” too.

I never mentioned Ford was “greedy”. I said all manufactures have been gouging consumers in recent years (referencing the shit-show coming out of Covid) only building higher trim models when supply was low giving people almost no affordable options.

Lastly, longbeds aren’t for niche customers. I just got back from vacation in Montana and Wyoming and there are probably more 6’ bed mid-size trucks on the road there than 5’ beds. Hardly a niche feature.

No problem with your opinion, but you've been repeating it on the forum for 2 years at this point. If Ford thought there would be a profit in the niche config you want, it would exist. Even in the RoW market where the longbed is an option, it only exists on the low trims, any higher trim is forced into the shortbed. Similar to the USA f150 which only offers an 8' bed on the XL trim, anything higher you get a short bed.

Yes, Toyota can offer all these trims on the tacoma because they control the midsize market and have for 30 years. They know the taco cult will line up to buy it with no question because it's been proven in the USA for multiple generations. Just like Ford can offer these trims on the F150 & Bronco because that market is theirs and those vehicles have their own loyal fanbase. The ranger hasn't had anything near that in the USA since maybe the early 2000s, if not longer. Like I said, the sales figures on the 5G ranger were not very good here, and the 5G USA Ranger offered these longbed and different cab configurations that you're saying the 6G needs.

For every Tacoma I see, about 8 out of 10 are shortbed. Would love to find official stats on what sells more but I think you're overstating how popular they are. Even the tacomaworld forums seems to think the DCSB configuration sells 9 to 1 compared to longbed.

 

[jeffers]

No problem with your opinion, but you've been repeating it on the forum for 2 years at this point. If Ford thought there would be a profit in the niche config you want, it would exist. Even in the RoW market where the longbed is an option, it only exists on the low trims, any higher trim is forced into the shortbed. Similar to the USA f150 which only offers an 8' bed on the XL trim, anything higher you get a short bed.

Yes, Toyota can offer all these trims on the tacoma because they control the midsize market and have for 30 years. They know the taco cult will line up to buy it with no question because it's been proven in the USA for multiple generations. Just like Ford can offer these trims on the F150 & Bronco because that market is theirs and those vehicles have their own loyal fanbase. The ranger hasn't had anything near that in the USA since maybe the early 2000s, if not longer. Like I said, the sales figures on the 5G ranger were not very good here, and the 5G USA Ranger offered the longbed and different cab configurations.

For every Tacoma I see, about 8 out of 10 are shortbed. Would love to find official stats on what sells more but I think you're overstating how popular they are. Even the tacomaworld forums seems to think the DCSB configuration sells 9 to 1 compared to longbed.

I think the 5G was outdated on the day it went on sale in the US market. I personally didn't want one.

 

[SubaruRaptor]

Just voicing my opinion, sorry you have a problem with it. As far as your snarky comment about “Fords insight and Metrics”? Well my opinion just so happens to align with what Toyota (the number one midsize truck producer in NA) just did for the launch of their brand new midsize truck… 8 trim levels (including two halo models), 3 bed/cab configurations, 3 engine options (including a hybrid) and manual trans option. I bet they have some solid “insight and metrics” too.

I never mentioned Ford was “greedy”. I said all manufactures have been gouging consumers in recent years (referencing the shit-show coming out of Covid) only building higher trim models when supply was low giving people almost no affordable options.

Lastly, longbeds aren’t for niche customers. I just got back from vacation in Montana and Wyoming and there are probably more 6’ bed mid-size trucks on the road there than 5’ beds. Hardly a niche feature.

But how old were all those longbeds? I dont ever see any long bed trucks that are not from the early / mid 2010s. The current car buying market wants a more capable car, hence the transitions to SUVs and the death of the Sedan. There is obviously still a sub-market for performance sedans / hatches, but outside of that its all SUVs.

Trucks are unique in the fact, most people want a truck to do be able to do truck stuff. Sure some other cars can tow or haul things, but that 1 time a year most people need a truck is when it really shines. The issue is people dont want a monster truck, current traffic patterns and city designs are not great for big trucks. Keep in mind most people live in the larger metropolitan areas vs elsewhere. Some maps showing what i mean

Longbeds currently are just relegated to work trucks really.

 

[Wayfaring Ranger]

I think the 5G was outdated on the day it went on sale in the US market. I personally didn't want one.

Yeah i agree. I think the 5G ranger is a rock solid truck and probably the best choice from the last generation of midsizes, but the interior matched my 2017 Focus ST and spending $40k+ on a "new vehicle" in 2021 that had an interior identical to my old car was a big reason I kept waiting for the 6G.

 

[Fattirz in NC]

Yeah i agree. I think the 5G ranger is a rock solid truck and probably the best choice from the last generation of midsizes, but the interior matched my 2017 Focus ST and spending $40k+ on a "new vehicle" in 2021 that had an interior identical to my old car was a big reason I kept waiting for the 6G.

100% agree. Was glad to see the 2.3l and 10 speed stick around for the 6G as well. A solid drivetrain for sure. I’ll be curious if the 2.3l will eventually be paired with and electric motor for a hybrid option?

 

[jeffers]

100% agree. Was glad to see the 2.3l and 10 speed stick around for the 6G as well. A solid drivetrain for sure. I’ll be curious if the 2.3l will eventually be paired with and electric motor for a hybrid option?

Agreed, I didn't want a brand new drivetrain. I prefer them after they've been debugged.

 

[gdub]

Longbeds currently are just relegated to work trucks really.

I don't need a 6" bed as a work truck, but I do haul stuff that needs the space a 6" bed has. I also want the longer bed for a camper. The 5" bed just doesn't have enough space for supplies needed for the type of lengthy trips I do in remote areas. I don't need a SuperCrew for that either.

If Ford doesn't come out with a Supercab in 2025, I will be looking for a 2023 Range Supercab. I really wanted to have the 2.7L engine but the 6' bed is more important to me.

 

[SubaruRaptor]

I don't need a 6" bed as a work truck, but I do haul stuff that needs the space a 6" bed has. I also want the longer bed for a camper. The 5" bed just doesn't have enough space for supplies needed for the type of lengthy trips I do in remote areas. I don't need a SuperCrew for that either.

If Ford doesn't come out with a Supercab in 2025, I will be looking for a 2023 Range Supercab. I really wanted to have the 2.7L engine but the 6' bed is more important to me.

Overlanding is so specific to an individual. I'm not arguing that there isnt a market for it (larger beds), just its small.

 

[jeffers]

Overlanding is so specific to an individual. I'm not arguing that there isnt a market for it (larger beds), just its small.

I don't need a 6" bed as a work truck, but I do haul stuff that needs the space a 6" bed has. I also want the longer bed for a camper. The 5" bed just doesn't have enough space for supplies needed for the type of lengthy trips I do in remote areas. I don't need a SuperCrew for that either.

If Ford doesn't come out with a Supercab in 2025, I will be looking for a 2023 Range Supercab. I really wanted to have the 2.7L engine but the 6' bed is more important to me.

A lot of Gladiator guys do a rear seat delete and put a lot of their gear in the cab.

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