2.3 or 2.7 with a cross country travel trailer road trip planned?

[Awirez]

Wet oil pump drive belt. Take it from me, terrible design. That will be the death of the 2.7 and 3.0. If you replace them every 50k you might be ok. However, as they age, the rubber degrades, comes off and blocks the oil sump before the belt finally breaks. Just ask any 1.0 Ecosport owner. 2.3 for sure!

I think the oil pump belt in the 2.7, 3.0, and 5.0 has been over discussed. They all have a Kevlar oil pump belt.

Coyote V8 belt driven oil pump? - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Coming from someone at Ford who assembles engines, "The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!"

Nobody should get a Ranger Raptor or a Coyote then? I'm indifferent but do not feel bad ordering a 2.7. Not arguing just throwing out some info that I came across in my extensive research before ordering.

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[Awirez]

2.7 is the way

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[hand-filer]

I think the oil pump belt in the 2.7, 3.0, and 5.0 has been over discussed. They all have a Kevlar oil pump belt.

Coyote V8 belt driven oil pump? - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Coming from someone at Ford who assembles engines, "The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!"

Nobody should get a Ranger Raptor or a Coyote then? I'm indifferent but do not feel bad ordering a 2.7. Not arguing just throwing out some info that I came across in my extensive research before ordering.

As someone with an older Coyote powered Mustang that's in a high state of tune, I would much prefer it had a belt driven oil pump rather than the crank driven unit. The powder metal oil pump gears don't hold up well when subjected to crankshaft harmonics/vibrations at higher RPM. They tend to shatter.

 

[Griff]

The only thing that scares me on the 2.7, and its because i have never had ine or heard of it till recently, is that wet belt oil pump drive. Why use a belt, basically a timing belt, to drive the oil pump? Many people still lose engines to timing belt failure just because they dont know the time frame for change, and dont care to know because they just want to drive. But every once in a while s belt lets go earlier then expected. My luck is i would be that guy

I had a 2018 Ford F150 with the 2.7L. I traded that in on my Ranger with the same 2.7L engine. I had almost 100K on the F150 and that engine ran as good at 100K as it did brand new. I never had any issues with that Truck. I expect the same from my Ranger.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

I think the oil pump belt in the 2.7, 3.0, and 5.0 has been over discussed. They all have a Kevlar oil pump belt.

Coyote V8 belt driven oil pump? - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

Coming from someone at Ford who assembles engines, "The new belt driven oil pump design is stronger and more reliable than the direct drive off the crank oil pumps when more HP is added. The direct drive oil pumps are still being used on the Mustangs for now. I believe 2023 you will see the Mustang change over to belt driven oil pump. The new belt driven oil pump serves multiple functions now. It has been designed to act as a windage tray between oil pan and crank. It also eliminates the use of a separate pickup tube. The belt driven oil pump also helped in the redesign of the steel oil pan for 2021!
I believe pre 2021 both Roush and Ford recommend that when any horsepower additive is installed like the stage 1 to stage 3 and above supercharger kits that a high-flow high volume Billet oil pump be installed. The new OEM belt driven oil pump is a high volume hi flow. This new oil pump also assist in the cylinder deactivation with more lubrication to the cylinder heads, lash Adjusters and solenoids!
Now personally I can't speak of the failure rates of the belts or pumps, but let me tell you, when you go into the dyno and watch the freeze-thaw durability testing you would be absolutely amazed at what these motors can do. The sound ain't half-bad either!"

Nobody should get a Ranger Raptor or a Coyote then? I'm indifferent but do not feel bad ordering a 2.7. Not arguing just throwing out some info that I came across in my extensive research before ordering.

2.7 and 5.0 are wet belt pumps. Modified the 5.0 produces over 1100+ with no issues.

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