Lane Centering Struggle

[JWeigel]

This is in a 2024 Raptor. When driving the new truck from iA to ND, if found myself fighting the centering and get the Cancel warning. Yesterday I thought I would use a light touch (like just keep my hand on steering wheel) but trust the lane centering, and I found it to be amazingly accurate and much more relaxed driving. I also had zero cancel warnings. The issue was it constantly warned me to keep my hands on the steering wheel. With a little testing it was clear the truck does not check if you physically have hands on the steering wheel but rather that you are adding input to the wheel (turning left or right). Unless you deliberately give it a turn every few minutes, it thinks you took your hands off the wheel.

I found the lane centering to be very good and created a relaxed drive which I let it steer but hate all the warnings. I wish there was a way to tweak the aggressiveness of the warning or even shut it off (Forscan ??). My guess is there is not.

I had to turn off lane centering as it really does a great job.

Any advice greatly appreciated.


jjw
ND

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[Garaged]

The input-based steering wheel sensor annoying the crap out of me even when my hands are on the wheel (and canceling itself) is one of the big reasons I'm considering buying and installing Comma AI's Comma 3x (there is another thread on this on the forum) on my Ranger Raptor for long drives.

 

[GypsyDaenger]

Its not input based or touch. Its weight sensing, so you can literally hold on with a single finger as long as that is giving about 1lb of weighted resistance. Once you get used to sort of jjust "hanging" on the wheel its mush less annoying and smoothing cruising.

 

[Garaged]

Its not input based or touch. Its weight sensing, so you can literally hold on with a single finger as long as that is giving about 1lb of weighted resistance. Once you get used to sort of jjust "hanging" on the wheel its mush less annoying and smoothing cruising.

Right, what I mean is it needs a slight bit of torque hanging on the wheel to realize that your hand is there. For me, that's a bit uncomfortable hanging my hand there to create said weight rather than a more natural position holding it) for a longer drive.

 

[Charles]

Mine actually turned on the flashers, steered me over to the shoulder and stopped the truck. Dealer said to just turn off lane centering. Not a good answer.

 

[Morningpride]

Mine actually turned on the flashers, steered me over to the shoulder and stopped the truck. Dealer said to just turn off lane centering. Not a good answer.

Really? Mine has never done that. It just keeps going.

 

[Texasota]

Its not input based or touch. Its weight sensing, so you can literally hold on with a single finger as long as that is giving about 1lb of weighted resistance. Once you get used to sort of jjust "hanging" on the wheel its mush less annoying and smoothing cruising.

Yes, this is the trick to using Lane Centering successfully. I just rest my hand at the 4 o'clock or 8 o'clock position and the weight of my forearm provides just the right amount of weight/torque to keep Lane Centering happy. Once I learned this technique I came to love Lane Centering on longer drives.

 

[BrrRaptor]

Yes, this is the trick to using Lance Centering successfully. I just rest my hand at the 4 o'clock or 8 o'clock position and the weight of my forearm provides just the right amount of weight/torque to keep Lance Centering happy. Once I learned this technique I came to love Lane Centering on longer drives.

It's got nothing to do with weight.
I put just 1 finger at the very bottom of the steering wheel and just ever so slightly move my finger back and forth. The truck is looking for steering input not the weight or grip of your hands.

 

[GypsyDaenger]

It's got nothing to do with weight.
I put just 1 finger at the very bottom of the steering wheel and just ever so slightly move my finger back and forth. The truck is looking for steering input not the weight or grip of your hands.

Its quite literally using weight on the wheel to sense presence. People in the maverick forums were using 1lb lead weights and driving hands free. the "input" is sensing 1lb of force on the wheel, whether that's you hanging off the wheel, countering input against where its turning or whatever, its using weight/pressure to sense it.

You could keep you hand still as it tries to turn and that literally is input and resistance weight that it senses.

 

[GypsyDaenger]

Right, what I mean is it needs a slight bit of torque hanging on the wheel to realize that your hand is there. For me, that's a bit uncomfortable hanging my hand there to create said weight rather than a more natural position holding it) for a longer drive.

I'm a long legged dude so i can usually hook my thumb or a another finger on the wheel while resting my hand on my leg. it definitely took me a bit to find all sorts of ways to keep input on it while feeling natural but not its just first nature to me.

 

[Rangeruser]

Mine actually turned on the flashers, steered me over to the shoulder and stopped the truck. Dealer said to just turn off lane centering. Not a good answer.

Really? That's much better than mine. It started doing a crazy ass brake check dance when I let it get past the red warning.

 

[Texasota]

It's got nothing to do with weight.
I put just 1 finger at the very bottom of the steering wheel and just ever so slightly move my finger back and forth. The truck is looking for steering input not the weight or grip of your hands.

Somewhat correct. The finger movement you are doing provides the torque on the steering wheel that keeps it satisfied. But I don't want to spend 6 hours moving my finger back and forth on the wheel. The weight of your forearm on the wheel (as I described above) is comfortable for long distance driving and provides the necessary torque input on the wheel to keep Lane Centering happy.

In addition, Lane Centering sometimes makes unusual steering corrections that need to be overridden by the driver. I want my hand on the wheel as opposed to a finger when that happens. Give the technique of hand at 4 o'clock with forearm weight providing a small amount of torque input a try. I learned this on an F-150 forum. It works well.

 

[FloppyKnockers]

I used to try and get the weight/torque just right, but couldn't. I just got myself one of these bad boys. When you get the 'put your hands on the wheel' warning, you know your beer is low and it's time for another.

 

[BrrRaptor]

Somewhat correct. The finger movement you are doing provides the torque on the steering wheel that keeps it satisfied. But I don't want to spend 6 hours moving my finger back and forth on the wheel. The weight of your forearm on the wheel (as I described above) is comfortable for long distance driving and provides the necessary torque input on the wheel to keep Lane Centering happy.

In addition, Lane Centering sometimes makes unusual steering corrections that need to be overridden by the driver. I want my hand on the wheel as opposed to a finger when that happens. Give the technique of hand at 4 o'clock with forearm weight providing a small amount of torque input a try. I learned this on an F-150 forum. It works well.

The finger on the wheel wasn't meant literally. It was to illustrate its more the input than weight. For me and my seat all the way back (6'4") the arms stretched out for long periods is uncomfortable. But I have read were people are actually attaching 2lb ankle weights to one side of the steering wheel witch to me sounds nuts and a liability.

 

[BrrRaptor]

I used to try and get the weight/torque just right, but couldn't. I just got myself one of these bad boys. When you get the 'put your hands on the wheel' warning, you know your beer is low and it's time for another.

Is the tallboy required so it's the proper weight?

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