2.7 with ongoing cam phaser issues or 2.3?

[Rangerjimm]

I know the 2.7 is a better fit for this truck but before I order my Lariat I want to be sure the Cam phaser issues are resolved. When I go on the Bronco forum people are still experiencing them failing even as late as 2024 and with a supposed redesigned part. This has been going on forever and it seems the 3.0 is worse but now Ford has admitted the problem on the current engines. I drove a 2.3 and the power is acceptable unloaded. I wish Ford was using the new 2.3 they are putting in the Mustang with the direct and port FI but they are not yet. Do we think they will switch to this engine when existing engines and parts are gone? Thoughts?.........

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[Blowndodge]

I have a 2024 Lariat with the 2.3 and I prefered it. It's a stallworth engine that's been proven. I've see two videos of the 2.3 racing a 2.7 and the results are close enough not to really matter. Both have about the same tow rating and payload capacity. I didn't buy my truck to race other trucks for bragging rights. My 2.3 is plenty fast enough.

 

[Rangerjimm]

I have a 2024 Lariat with the 2.3 and I prefered it. It's a stallworth engine that's been proven. I've see two videos of the 2.3 racing a 2.7 and the results are close enough not to really matter. Both have about the same tow rating and payload capacity. I didn't buy my truck to race other trucks for bragging rights. My 2.3 is plenty fast enough.

Thanks for that reply.

 

[hand-filer]

This is my second 2.7. Never had an issue with cam phasers and not losing any sleep about it.
The 2.3 is okay. The 2.7 is exceptional.

 

[hand-filer]

I have a 2024 Lariat with the 2.3 and I prefered it. It's a stallworth engine that's been proven. I've see two videos of the 2.3 racing a 2.7 and the results are close enough not to really matter. Both have about the same tow rating and payload capacity. I didn't buy my truck to race other trucks for bragging rights. My 2.3 is plenty fast enough.

I'm glad the 2.3 is adequate for your needs.
Links to those close races or it never happened.

 

[Blowndodge]

I'm glad the 2.3 is adequate for your needs.
Links to those close races or it never happened.

Do your own research. Whether you are satisfied is nothing I care about.

 

[hand-filer]

Do your own research. Whether you are satisfied is nothing I care about.

Gee-whiz Brad, no need to get all in a huff about it.

 

[Johnny 5]

I know the 2.7 is a better fit for this truck but before I order my Lariat I want to be sure the Cam phaser issues are resolved. When I go on the Bronco forum people are still experiencing them failing even as late as 2024 and with a supposed redesigned part. This has been going on forever and it seems the 3.0 is worse but now Ford has admitted the problem on the current engines. I drove a 2.3 and the power is acceptable unloaded. I wish Ford was using the new 2.3 they are putting in the Mustang with the direct and port FI but they are not yet. Do we think they will switch to this engine when existing engines and parts are gone? Thoughts?.........

I had a 2018 F-150 2.7 liter ecoboost with the newly designed ports to eliminate the carbon buildup they were experiencing, and it ran strong for 53,000 miles before trade in. Then I had 2022 F-150 with the 2.7 ecoboost I traded in for my RR, and that ran strong as well. Zero issues with both motors. Total work horses. I thought I heard on one of these threads, where the company that was making parts for the camphasers, had a hard time holdings specs on their machined parts, or something to that effect. I'm not really familiar with these, but that's what I thought I remembered hearing somewhere in one of these threads. I wouldn't be concerned with you 2.7.

 

[Blowndodge]

Gee-whiz Brad, no need to get all in a huff about it.

I own a brand new Ranger Lariat. I can't be in a huff. I'm a pleased owner!

 

[wolf32v]

Having owned several 2.3 Rangers I can say the 2.3 is a good little motor that punches above its weight. But the 2.7 is a great motor in the Ranger it is so much more refined and just smoother than my 2.3's ever were. After have driven both there is no question as to which one I would buy now if I was in the market for a Ranger it would be the 2.7.

 

[GFran]

This is my second 2.7. Never had an issue with cam phasers and not losing any sleep about it.
The 2.3 is okay. The 2.7 is exceptional.

Agree! I am totally satisfied with this 2.7. If you’re adding a lot of foot to the pedal, the fuel economy is awesome in this truck. Very good motor in my opinion.

 

[Jason B]

Well, I guess it isn't an issue, until it is. Seems to be a roll of the dice chance, like the 5G Ranger transmission failures or water in plug well #4 on the 2.3.

 

[jeffers]

The main downside to the 2.3L is that it seems a little crude. Its kind of noisy and runs fairly rough, what I call tractor like, but its supposed to be reliable. I watched a mechanic talking about it today and he was saying it didn't have hydraulic lifters, so still needs valve adjustments. Can this be true, he was say that its a nuisance but more reliable than the hydraulic lifters. I mean that sounds like 1980's stuff. Compared to this 2.3L my GTI's EA888 engine feels electric in smoothness.

 

[Hootbro]

The main downside to the 2.3L is that it seems a little crude. Its kind of noisy and runs fairly rough, what I call tractor like, but its supposed to be reliable. I watched a mechanic talking about it today and he was saying it didn't have hydraulic lifters, so still needs valve adjustments. Can this be true, he was say that its a nuisance but more reliable than the hydraulic lifters. I mean that sounds like 1980's stuff.

2.3L is a shim under bucket system. While there is service manual specs for clearance, there is no expected service interval once the engine is built and initial clearances are set. So basically, valve clearance is not checked or adjusted unless there is other leading issues like noisy valve train or timing issues.

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