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Dealer markup not even sure I will bite, I was patient with my RS and got under MSRP. Like the RS i doubt there will be D plan, so I'm already forgoing that on the RR. Second hand slightly used doesnt bother me either, got my GT350 for 50K 1.5 years old 7k on it, some people were paying 90K, no...

Damn, if they dont have the program I would be shocked AF. Been to Octane, RS, Planning for my GFs ST Experience, done FRS 2 times and yeaaaaaa never disappointed. They even have the Rodeo for Broncos and Bronco Sports. This would be the first Ford Performance product (excluding GT) that will...

Well said, Loving this idea. Another Key to this is the Damper tuning and keeping the Unsprung weight as close to stock as possible.

Very disappointing especially knowing how the Explorer ST takes to tunes and a few mods. Time will tell, hopefully 5 Star pulls through.

This is becoming more and more common. Just will take time that's all. Or something like the Bronco Sport and use a piggy back config.

Well, I am waiting for an answer from the dealer I work at, we do about 80 new cars a month. The last dealer I worked at did about 350 and from what they are telling me they didn't get any but that could change, I could just be the first person to ask and no one knows LOL

100% why I think a little sandbagging went on. Being a Ford Performance product I expect a little more. 33's arent bad, Rubicons still come with them, but even the Tremor has 32's. This some what reminds me of the excuses we got for the RS and cannibalizing Mustang sales, two different vehicles...

I hope the aftermarket will be pretty good for this platform and reasonably Quick. Electronically adjustable suspension is something you don't really want to give up if you don't have to. The FFR series would be epic especially in a 3.0 version . I think you read my mind in my optimal...

I honestly think part of it is the Porsche complex, the reason why the Cayman was always held back. Cant start outshining the Raptor. I mean the Braptor was in the works and Ford designed a 37" package for the Raptor. Maybe not the whole reason, the ZR2 may change this with the Bison could also...

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